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  Time of the end - a TRINITY puzzler.

  by BoogerMan in

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  (matthew 24:36) “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.".

  (jesus seems to have forgotten to include the holy spirit not knowing either).

  (acts 1:7) "he said to them: “it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.".

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  Sea Breeze

  @SlimBoyFat
  
  

  Interesting misquotation there. Whether it’s deliberate or unintentional, it’s telling. Matt 28:18 doesn’t say Jesus “has” all power in heaven and earth. It says he has “been given” all power in heaven and earth.

  Wrong. There is no misquotation. If I gave you ALL the Gold and Silver in the world, you have it ALL. ALL means ALL. Look it up in the dictionary if you want. It is completely irrelevant that I gave it to you. Your argument is illogical. It violates the law of non-contradiction.
  
  As I repeatedly point out to you and you pretend not to grasp - the problem is not with the bible. The problem is you trying to superimpose a materialistic description of man on the scriptures that utterly rejects it. This is obviously due to your previous WT training which in many ways you still hold in high regard. It was all poison, not just some of it.

  Soul, body and spirit of men are all spoken of with pronouns in the bible denoting personhood. We even have sayings that prove that deep down we all know the biblical definition is true. For instance, someone may say "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak". We all experience this from time to time, especially as the body ages. Both the body and the spirit is self.
  
  When the spirit of Samuel was summoned by Saul, Samuel identifies his spirit as "me", even though his body was long gone. “Samuel said to Saul, ‘Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?’” (1 Samuel 28:15).

  
  You are not fooling anyone with your feigned ignorance. You are a smart guy. But this has nothing to do with intelligence.
  
  The two scriptures listed in the chart below is what you reject, alongside the triune nature of God. Jesus, as a man REQUIRES all three components to meet the definition requirements of a "man". God is a spirit. This make Jesus fully man, and fully God at the same time.

  As long as you hold on to a modern, materialistic definition of the nature of man being a body only, with no immaterial self, you will never understand the nature of God. I believe you are simply ashamed of a suffering, dying God who made you. I am not ashamed of him. That is the difference between you and I .
  
  
  
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  WAR begins.

  by lastmanstanding in

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  things are moving right along.

  “israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

  this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

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  Sea Breeze

  Sorry LMS, you were fooled again by fake news.

  CNN and MSNBC are criminal organizations that will do anything to make Trump look bad.

  It didnt work.

  This Fake report during a wartime operation is treasonous. It is punishable by death in the USA. They will find this fake leaker and hold him accountable.

  The deep state is diminished but not eradicated.
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  Time of the end - a TRINITY puzzler.

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (matthew 24:36) “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.".

  (jesus seems to have forgotten to include the holy spirit not knowing either).

  (acts 1:7) "he said to them: “it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.".

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  Sea Breeze

  Absolutely, not only does Jesus nowhere claim a dual nature, nor any of the Bible writers ever mention it, but he talks and acts as if he's either totally unaware of it or else deceiving his followers about it.

  
  Wrong again. One verse says says Jesus has ALL power in heaven and earth, and another verse says that the father is greater than he is. So which is it? It's both.

  Arian heretics make God out to be a liar because they refuse to believe what God says about the nature of man. It is the unitarian rejection of the word of God about the nature of MAN that prevents them from accepting the triune nature of God.
  
  Simply put, unitarians refuse to believe God. Then they use this unbelief as a strawman argument against the nature of God. We have all gone over this time and again.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Then there was light.

  by Earnest in

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  the universe came into being 13.8 billion years ago in the big bang.

  after an initial flash, it went through a period known as the cosmic dark ages.

  according to a new study, probing cosmic dawn, 250 to 350 million years after the big bang the first stars emerged bringing light to the cosmos.

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  Astrophysicist Dr. Jason Lisle Phd. explains science that is at odds with evolutionists and the RCC :
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ3ktKR8KZw&ab_channel=AnswersinGenesis
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  How Did Watchtower Sell the "Jonadab" Concept ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.

  that's how they sold it.

  the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!

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  How Did Watchtower Sell the "Jonadab" Concept ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.

  that's how they sold it.

  the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!

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  Sea Breeze

  The terrn "Catholic Church" is used interchangeably to mean:
  
  a.) Roman Catholic Church (RCC)

  b.) Universal Body of Believers (UBB)
  
  They are different. It causes confusion to use the same term which refers to different things. I believe that such discussions as this would be better served by using acronyms such as RCC & UBB.
  
  Could you go along with that Aqwsed ? If not, why not?
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  JW light Elders?

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so many elders are now saying no to pretty much everything.. they are saying no to assignments and away talks.

  saying no to jobs in the cong.

  the cos and the super fine elders are using scripture and the elders manual to try to persuade them to step up.. many are coming off as an elder, but even more are simply saying the cost of living or other reasons they are just finding it hard to fulfill all their assignments.. if you say you want to come off the public talks list altogether they still try putting you down for some and making a fuss saying you have to give some public talks.

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  Sea Breeze

  I pioneered straight from school and got a cleaning job instead of getting qualified in something. Now I’m struggling to pay housing costs for my family.

  Ungrateful slaves! Don't they know that those fat a$$ GB leaders need them to support their residences nestled in upstate New York?

  
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  Sea Breeze

  It all made perfect sense when the eye-witnesses remembered that Jesus predicted that he would resurrect himself from the dead. After he did something that ONLY God could do, they knew he was Yahweh, manifested in the flesh. Everyone in fact knows this, they just suppress it. Unsaved people are ashamed of a God like this. They want a big-shot God, not a lowly suffering Friend.
  
  John 2

  So the Jews said to him, “What sign do you show us for doing these things?” 19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.
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  WAR begins.

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  things are moving right along.

  “israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

  this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

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  Sea Breeze

  And now it ends.
  
  Trump just announced an Iran / Israel ceasefire. Everyone please keep moving. Thank you for your cooperation.
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  Time of the end - a TRINITY puzzler.

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (matthew 24:36) “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.".

  (jesus seems to have forgotten to include the holy spirit not knowing either).

  (acts 1:7) "he said to them: “it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.".

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  Sea Breeze

  The obvious answers are that God knows the time because he’s God, Jesus doesn’t know the time because he isn’t God

  Wrong.